CYC Photon Mid Drive Motor Kit (2024)

The Photon from CYC Motor, is a dream product for electric conversion builds.

For UK road legal use, we will install the EAPC 250W locked firmware, and recommend a 36V battery option to meet your insurance requirements and avoid associated legal issues.

An EAPC must have pedals that can be used to propel it.

It must show either:

  • the power output
  • the manufacturer of the motor

It must also show either:

  • the battery’s voltage (must be 36v)
  • the maximum speed of the bike (must be 15.5mph)

Its electric motor:

  • must have a maximum power output of 250 watts
  • should not be able to propel the bike when it’s travelling more than 15.5mph

An EAPC can have more than 2 wheels (for example, a tricycle).

Without the EAPC locked firmware, or by using a battery that is not 36v nominal, this motor kit does not meet the EAPC rules. This means the bike would be legally classed as a motorcycle or moped by the DVLA, and needs to be registered and taxed accordingly. You’ll need a driving licence to ride one and you must wear a crash helmet.

Description

If you want to convert your existing bike, rather than buy a brand new one, then this is the best quality motor you can get.

Advanced torque sensing technology from CYC offers a seamless, intuative pedal assist experience (comparable to Shimano EP8 or Bosch CX Motors). With a helical gear design, the build quality is uncompromising, but also manages to keep the noise down. This motor is compact, lightweight, and offers bike modders a premium option for their next conversion project.

Manufacturers Website LINK: https://www.cycmotor.com/photon

Retrofit Mid Drive Motor Comparison

CYC vs Bafang

At Paradise Cyces, we have been using the Bafang BBS02 motors for over 2 years, and found it to be excellent value, powerful, and predictable (when configured sensibly). However, the differences between a cadence sensing motor (Bafang) and a torque sensing motor (CYC) is noticeable. The CYC Photon is going to be a game changer.

We have ordered a batch, and will continue to test these two systems against each other throughout 2023.

Bafang BBS02B + Lekkie Upgrades
CYC Photon
Pricesfrom £775
from £975
SensorsCadence + Speed + Gear + BrakeTorque + Speed (+ Brake optional)
Rated Power750w750w
Peak Power1400w2000w
Peak Torque110Nm110Nm
Operating Voltage48v36-52v
Min Chainring for correct chainline40t34t
Weight4.2kg3.2kg
Mobile App?No.Yes. CYC Ride Control.
Serviceable?Yes. All spares are available.Yes. All spares are available.
Battery optionsAny 48v pack with a male XT60 connector will work.Apparently any 36-52v pack with a male XT90 connector will work. Requires proper setup on controller before use.
Manufacturers WarrantyNone, but this has never been an issue.2 Years, but shipping from HK is not included so it's not free to use.

Which is best? Bafang BBS02 or CYC Photon

For all road based use, the Bafang is absolutely fine and can't be beaten in terms of cost and customisation. With the custom tuning profiles that we have developed, you get maximum range as well as a smooth, predictable behaviour at >5mph. The downside is low speed control, where you need to either use the brake sensor to cut the motor, or breifly switch the PAS level to 0.

If you are using the kit off road (for trails or bike parks) and you need faster cut off + enguagement for technical riding, and you need a chainring smaller than 40t, or want a simpler and slightly easier to use system, then the CYC Photon is the way to go.

What CYC have to say

New CYC motors are equipped with the Gen 3 torque sensing technology exclusively developed in-house by our team of engineers and riders. Together they achieved a pedal assist experience for conversion kits like you've never seen before!

NATURAL, SMOOTH RIDING
Equipped with our patent pending torque sensor module, we can give you a refined pedal assist system. The torque sensor module includes both a high sensitivity torque sensor strain gauge module and a cadence sensing module. The high number of poles of the cadence sensor ensures that we can control the sensitivity to a much higher degree & provides the opportunity to fine-tune the firmware alongside rider inputs. The result? Unprecedented ebiking!

ALGORITHM IS EVERYTHING
Our PAS firmware algorithm is like the secret ingredient in a top chef's recipe. Without it, we'd be boring! BUT, we aimed for better, and so, we've accomplished it! Our engineers were put to the test and are proud to present you with an all-new pedal assist experience.

SEALED, INTEGRATED, & BUILT TO LAST
The new Gen 3 PAS (pedal assist system) sits integrated with the robust sprag clutch module so there's no external wiring that can get caught, bent, or accidentally snapped. The CYC PAS runs with both the torque and cadence signal collected and is processed by the controller to provide you with a pedal assist feeling like never before.

TESTED BY PROFESSIONALS
Not only have we written our firmware alongside our team riders, we've made sure that that all our MVPs got a chance to test it! This includes our partners at Ristretto Electric, Coast Cycles, Fasterbikes EU to name a few. We also showcased the beta version at the 2022 EUROBIKE show where the feedback was phenomenal!

CYC Photon Mid Drive Motor Kit (2024)

FAQs

How long do mid drive ebike motors last? ›

Motor. Motors can easily outlast other components of an e-bike. It could last up to ten years or more than 10,000 miles—which is about the same lifespan as the electric bike itself. Moreover, if it fails, you often can get it replaced depending on your manufacturer's warranty, so it is a very low risk investment.

How fast can a 750W hub motor go? ›

Hub motor:

Typically a 750W electric bike with a hub motor will have a top speed closer to 20-28 mph. The rate can be kept stable with the throttle and cadence system.

How fast is the Bafang 250w hub motor? ›

We can build this motor into any wheel size.
ModelSWXH
Speed20~35KM/H
Effeciency≥78%
Weight3.0KG
Spoke specification13G
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Can I make my Electra Townie electric? ›

The Electra Townie is one of my favorite bicycles to convert into an electric bicycle. I've converted and worked on dozens of Electra Townie ebikes and each one has proven what a perfect bike it is for ebike conversions. Allow to me to break down some of my favorite parts aspects of the Townie.

How fast is a Bafang 1000w mid-drive? ›

Active Member. I just finished putting a 1000 watt Bafang mid-drive on my Specialize Crosstrail. It has the big 17.6 amp hour 52 volt battery and the DPC-18 display which has a 60 mph limit. On a smooth road I can do about 36 mph on power alone and 39+ if I tuck.

Why are mid-drive ebikes so expensive? ›

Mid-drive motor ebikes tend to be priced higher than hub motor models. The added cost is attributed to the complexity and integration of mid-drive systems, which provide superior performance and versatility.

What is the difference between a 750W and a 1000W Bafang motor? ›

The significant difference between a 1000W motor and a 750W motor is how much power each can put out. 1000-Watt motors can generally handle resistance better and more efficiently than 750W motors. For instance, electric bikes with 750W motors perform fine on flat roads and pretty steep gradients.

How fast is a 5000W hub motor? ›

On average, a 5000W electric bike can reach speeds of up to 40-60 miles per hour (64-96 kilometers per hour) under favorable conditions.

How fast will a 1000 watt ebike go? ›

A 1000w electric bike can reach a top speed of 28-32mph. Such speeds are usually only possible on smooth terrain like roads and concrete paths. Riding on a flat, elevated surface will help you accelerate faster and maintain a higher top speed than riding uphill.

How fast can a 2000 watt hub motor go? ›

The top speed of a 2000W electric bike can vary depending on several factors, such as the weight of the rider, terrain, and weather conditions. However, most electric bikes with a 2000W motor can reach speeds of up to 40-45 miles per hour.

How fast can a 3000W hub motor go? ›

Strong 3000W DC brushless hub motor:

This electric motorcycle has a strong 3000W DC brushless hub motor, which gives it an impressive range and performance, with a top speed of over 90 km per hour and a range of up to 150 km.. This key component ensures that the motorcycle is efficient and reliable.

How fast is 1000W in mph? ›

1000W Ebike can do as little as 22mph as top speed and as much as 45mph! There are different types of 1000w systems. Such as direct drive motor, geared hub motor and mid-driver systems. They all have different characteristics.

What does it cost to convert a bike to electric? ›

Electric bike conversion kits are not cheap. Neither are good quality road, mountain or city bikes. If you're buying a $700 bike, you then have to add in the cost of the conversion kit, which can range from $1000 – $1800.

Is it legal to convert a motorcycle to electric? ›

Any vehicle registered in California may be converted to a 100% electric drive, as long as all power is supplied by on-board batteries. All combustion and fuel system components must be removed prior to inspection by a California Bureau of Automotive Repairs Referee station.

What is the difference between an Electra Townie and Cruiser? ›

The Townie is Cruise-ee bike, similar to a beach cruiser but with a little more function. Designed with Electra's patented Flatfoot Technology, The Townie has an even more forward pedaling position than the Electra Cruisers.

What is the life expectancy of the ebike motor? ›

Most electric bike motors last between 3 to 10 years. As you can see, the motors can vary in life span but they are regarded as one of the longest service life parts. Because they are so integral to the operation of the bike, the motor can often be the root cause of needing to upgrade to a new electric bike.

Are mid motor ebikes better? ›

E-bikes with mid-drive motors typically offer improved handling and balance because the motor's weight is centralized, resulting in a more natural weight distribution.

How much does it cost to replace a motor on an ebike? ›

Motor replacement can cost a couple of hundred dollars, and the price of different electric components can range from $50 to $200. A fine tune-up can be free or cost up to $150.

Are ebike hub motors reliable? ›

Hub-drive motors can be more reliable and safer compared to mid motors because they tend to last longer than mid-drive motors. In fact, as it doesn't have any gear inside, there is no fear of wear out or break.

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